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you must be absolutely dumb to call shaman worst class in game right now, but subjective I guess

Been mostly playing resto and ele then played some as enhance today and my god its the most frustrating experience ive ever had in gaming. Slow waddling towards people kited forever with only pitiful lunge on a 25 yard range every 30 seconds.. And a 1 min cd sprint IF you spend talents on it.. Far lower than every other melee in terms of damage, survivability and mobility. Only form of survivability comes from self heals, which are gimped with dampening and useless if you cant get uptime to generate maelstrom anyway, plus its an extra GCD worked in after ever spender that comes from a MANDATORY pvp talent ffs. Everything about the spec reeks of contempt and neglect from blizz. Its like the designed a spec that has all of the downsides of both melee and caster and none of the strengths of either.

shaman has the potential to be one of the coolest classes in the game, yet blizzard pushes it to the back of the line and shits on it lmao

Ele and resto Shaman are fun to play exactly because they have so many utility buttons that do different things . The base abilities however are very straightforward . Elementalist enhancement has also a very fun rotation, apart from the very annoying tab targeting and the fact that if you hit the wrong mob on pull (aka one without flame shock) then you wait 5 secs untill you can start doing dps. However i tried all different physical builds on Beta and they rock.

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Survability is one of the problems but fun is also a problem. As enhancement I feel there are too many buttons and too many procs. If you don't press the right proc you do suboptimal damage. I feel like you need an addon like hekili to do proper damage. And if you are focused on what buttons to press you might not be able to dodge the mechanics. With elemental i feel that you need setup in order to do damage. If you would be able to spread flame shock easier as fire ( I miss chain harvest) or get a free proc of stormbringer from time to time as a nature build might solve some of these issues.

I Resto Shaman main but when I play Elemental, I have always hated how you are forced to do a Flame Shock/Lava Burst build. I found a way to do a Lightning/Electric Shock build that is fun to play and creates some satisfying combos and completely removes flame shock/lava burst. Of course it is not strong enough to raid or do mythics with but it is good for open world content and questing. If Shamans are masters of the elements, then there should be viable builds that don't force fire. I wish it was set up that you can make a build that excluded all fire or all lightning or all frost so that you feel more like an elemental specialist. I also agree with his talk about Earth Shock. I would like to see more difference between Earth Shock and Elemental Blast. I like how fast and instant Earth Shock, they need to bring that back.

Ive just realized shaman will never be what i want it to be and so i just stopped playing mine. That said id like to see: button bloat fixed, fix dps and durability using the same resource, let me use a 2h weapon, make my dps less random/luck based, and give enhancement more party ENHANCEMENT abilities similarly to Augmentation evoker.

Hey guys… I used to play shaman but I accidentally wrote a caprice, so I’m swapping to Hunter, monk and pally for TWW.

They should rework LIghtning shield to work as def cd. and make so earth elemental raises hp of all party or raid members but adjust duration, or maybe give earthshield 5% DR .and rework spirit wolf talent.. u have to spend 4-5 sec to get 20% DR its so bad .There is plenty of things that they need to fix talent wise and rotation wise(for ele)

just get rid of the totems. The whole mecanic is just button bloating and mobility killing as you are supposed to stay near the totem. Go the evoker way like they do with the dragon flights but with elementals. Like heal can have Water and Earth, elem can have Fire and Wind and enhancement can have wind and storm or something in this idea. then talents adds abilities to the elems like for the wings of paladin. I really hate totems and seeing blizzard doing a whole hero spec around it just made me stop considering the class as a main char

please talk about second worst class: Rogue.... it need attencion as well... it's the least played class in DF for a reason.

I rather have a well balanced m+ then reworks new spells and so on

Enh shaman playstyle is so freakin old school feral cat... hit this, spam that, dont forget this, oh shit im capped. This class killa brain cells....

LoL dk frost and balance druid got the fk you class...we are not adding anything new to a expansion for you. Be the same old playstyle from last expansion.....😂😂😂😂 Sad life. Huntard complain and the dev team look at it..buff it/rework the talent and people couldnt even play BM hunter in all season when they were the easiest class to play.

I think Shaman suffers from massive button bloat inc Enh. Totems are a massive problem imo as they take a GCD, are a cooldown, and can be killed. From a pvp perspective Id like to see Enh reach a place similar to the direction of Surv hunter where the idea is to use ranged abilities to set up then a gap closer for a melee burst. That combined with button reduction and rethinking of totems should be enough to fix the spec

In addition: stop spliting fire from lightning. Shaman used to be a mix of elements. Stop making it like mage. And that last 2 tier sets oblie ppl taking determined talents. It doesnt make sense having talents if ppl are forced to take determines ones

I am just worried that "update packages" sounds more like few minor updates than major rework everyone asks for

Shamans and rogues are way to buttonbloated

its going to be the best class lols

I would like to see the flame shock cooldown removed entirely as well as flame shock spreading to one or more targets when hit by a lava burst. i did some arenas tonight and the most triggering thing ever was playing into a dh and disc priest. the dh removed my flame shocks with his rotational abilities, and the priest ran double dispel. it was hell.

More interaction with elementals as an elemental shaman >.>

I really feel like shaman is still paying the "bus-shock tax" from all those years ago. Ignored, at least compared to some other classes. It makes me sad, Shaman was the first character I ever made.

Ok, last one: CHAIN LIGHTNING SHOULD BE USED AS A SINGLE TARGET AND AOE SPELL, LIGHTNING BOLT SUCKS, STOP THE BUTTON BLOAT!!!!

Also, ASScendance... boring talent, that damn animation ugly AF...

I hope we could get rid of Primordial Wave, its such a lame ass spell, this shit is only alive until now because of the massive haste buff from the talent. The spell itself sucks, a glorified flame shock. Awful for all 3 specs.

Very good break down.

Only shaman spec I like is resto. An update would be good.

I think ele Shaman should get a stack of 4 selected totems to put out in a fight, those provide utility based on the raid/dungeon needs. and you essentially just put them down every 3 minutes. I miss the days when we actually had to select totems and put the little stack down. Also needs to have an actual elemental summon build or an actual flying elements build of just everything going crazy with fire lighting and rock. Some avatar looking things. They can definitely make ele shaman into a proper support class with totems and an elemental raid buff that adds elemental damage to raid attacks throughout

You know what would make more sense than a druids starfall? An ele shaman casting lightning storm, functiona similar to star fall but looks way cooler.

I would love overload totem for elemental shaman. Small chance for casters abilities to cast again at 50% effectiveness. Also with farseer and stormbringer being so different there are virtually no spec tree build options for the trees atm.

You guys still coping to this day Amaziiinnn❤

Shamans are trying to be too many things and failing at them all and everything feels outdated and needs to be synchronized so that abilities work together and not have to focus on one button to do damage no matter if it's lightning or fire, for example ele shaman literally does better just spamming chain lightning and earthquake is weak and easily wasted when tank moves mob out of its small hit box. On top of trying to be a totem master, ascended being, and elemental pet master at the same time but can't do all of them together because they don't work together, enhance is close with ascendance and wolves kinda synergizing one boosting the other is some ways. And the elemental summons are supposed to be some major cd that does literally nothing here's a fire ele that increase flame shock duration....great what does the greater elemental do, it drops a meteor that does less then a single chain lightning and can only use it once gg. Storm ele has a bad ass lightning ability that is strong but too long a cd and not strong enough to beat liquid magma totem so yeah gg. Then there's the other cd ascendance, where it's proc is better then the actual power it gives. So dre is always better then a 3 min cd for only 15 sec that does little to 0 dps increase

Enhance rotation is "hit something". It's a huge fucking mess. Some folks love the chaotic, frantic action, but it could absolutely use some coherent design to it. Perhaps even a talent path to make "Enhancement" a melee counterpoint to Aug Evoker. Elemental should be kings of AOE. Layering all the AOE in the toolbox takes a lot of effort, but doing so is completely unrewarding. Other classes Pop wings and spam divine storm, or blade storm, or blade flurry, or blizzard/rain of fire, and soar past ele's who've just planned out a storm keeper, chain lightning, layered earthquakes, and you barely surpass the tank. It,s dumb. Resto just needs a raid buff, IMHO.

Too much RNG, too many buttons and not enough survivability - there’s so much they could do with earth shield etc

Full Rework!

As a shaman main I appreciate the spotlight you've put on the class in the last few videos. I'm sure your voice added with all the others out there helped us finally get some attention. Here's hoping that Tuesday brings good news on all fronts for my blue brothers and sisters out there 🍻

i gave up trying to make shaman work and viable since s1 of shadowlands. trust me izen, let the class go they'll only dissapoint with sham.

Resto shaman is awesome

where's tyrs hand?

as resto shaman player (With a rank below 50 in Warcraft Logs) we play shami for chain heal style.Why should they change it? If we like this style

Idk, man. I kinda like my enh, mained it for 4 df seasons. Having 22% versa and 80% mastery with 35% haste its really good and tanky. Can't do much against one shots most of the time, but for other aoe, I can just heal myself and others. On the other hand, tho yes, if i see myself on top of the dps, I know the team might be underperforming, but that's not always the case.

gj izen i love your content keep up the good work

Swapped from Unholy to Enh in DF because unholy is unplayable without PI. Now i wanna do 15s with enh and its impossible to get into groups because ppl tell me im to squishy and ask me how much avoidance i have

I'm baffled you left out Flurry. Two specs out of tree can't even use it since they aren't melee. No other class or spec in the game has talents in their class tree that are totally unusable.

bring elemental oath back for elemental they need a raid buff

Even from an aesthetics point of view. I have had to sit and watch Warlocks get green fire and personalized demons while we still have the same elementals and ascendence from way back.

Im so sad they did not remove the stupid talent tree!

My biggest beef is that there is no class feel between the specs of ELE and ENH. Hunter specs feel different but all shaman feel somehow the same as ELE with spells tacked on for RESTO and ENH. Have been playing ELE half the expansion as we are full on melee and well dps aside being low. There is no reason to play ELE other than you need a ranged dps. Lack of defensive(s) and so many more nit picks.